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Why do you write?
Like most writers, I started off fuelled by egotism and neurosis
as much as by creativity. (I believe there's a very fine line between
those qualities anyway). Once I'd gotten over that a bit, I think
I wrote in order to show people that there is a living breathing
Aboriginal culture in Australia, and also to satisfy the urge to
create interesting work. Tell stories. These days the impulse is
more towards writing the best work I can possibly put out. Maybe
that's why I write more slowly…the political element is still strong
though.
Are your books 'true'? Are they about you?
Steam Pigs is about fifty per cent autobiographical, but certainly
no more than that. I've never lived in Townsville, for example,
and my mother isn't an alcoholic, and so on. The Logan City bits
are closer to reality, but all characters are composites. You take
one person's appearance, and someone else's laugh, and a bad habit
from a third person and chuck it all in the blender. That's how
characters form. My other novels are hardly about me at all. I try
to be true to the Australia I know, but they don't reflect myself
or my family. Occasionally a friend might slip into a book, but
even that's rare.
Do you consider yourself primarily a writer, or an Aboriginal
writer?
I would normally say an Aboriginal writer. The trouble with that
is, the word "Aboriginal" means something different to outsiders.
When I say 'Aboriginal' I automatically assume things like being
of mixed race, being literate, and having a wide appreciation of
Australian culture and so on. But to most white people, 'Aboriginal'
implies something different, usually something much more restricted
and restrictive. So the question runs into a difficulty of semantics.
I think that doesn't happen so much with say, Indian or Caribbean
writers, because there is more familiarity with their subculture
on the part of white readers.
Why do you say you are Aboriginal when you have white blood
too?
Being Aboriginal is about culture and family links, not just about
race. My blood is mixed, but my life (and my writing) is more influenced
by Aboriginal thinking and Aboriginal culture than by any other.
I know almost nothing about my Russian/Ukrainian forebears, for
instance. One day I'll correct that ignorance. But the essence of
who I am is far more about being Indigenous than about being white.
You also have to remember there was an official government policy
of assimilation for many, many decades. That was intended to wipe
out the Aboriginal culture and people by 'breeding out the colour'.
We were forced to marry whites. Mixed-race children were stolen
up until the 1970s (that's not a misprint) and placed in institutions,
to grow up white. So many, many of us have fair skin. There are
plenty of blond, blue-eyed Aborigines out there as well as all shades
of brown and black. But you do have to know the culture before you
call yourself Aboriginal.
How long does it take to write a book?
How long is a piece of string? Steam Pigs took nine months, and
came very easily. Killing Darcy I wrote in six weeks after thinking
about it for a couple of months when my computer was broken. (I
work by laptop computer usually - I have slight RSI and can't write
fast enough with pen and paper). I wrote the first draft of Hard
Yards in Tonga in about six months, then it needed another twelve
or so months work back in Brisbane. And my latest book Too Flash
has taken about two and a half years to complete - but it needed
more drafts than the others, and I moved three times during that
two and a half years.
Do you get writer's block?
Rarely. When I do, its usually because I have nothing useful to
say. That's a sign that its time to go back out into the world,
or else do some more reading, until you do have something worth
saying.
Do you have any advice for beginning writers?
Read a lot. Work hard. Take your craft seriously. Don't be boring.
Tell the truth. (If the truth you're trying to tell is boring, find
some different material to work with).
What's your favourite book of your own?
Ummm, that's a hard one. I like aspects of all my books. Usually
I like my most recent book best, because that reflects where I am
at the time. But Steam Pigs will always be special, I guess.
Who are your influences?
I'd say Keri Hulme's The Bone People
was important in shaping me, as was Helen Garner's Monkeygrip.
The Australian poets Lawson and Paterson were what I read as a child
and would have been formative. I remember sitting in a Darwin shopping
centre when I was twenty three, obsessing over Judith Wright's collected
works, and thinking 'I'll never be able to write as well as this',
but loving her power with language. Ruth Park, Peter Carey. I
Heard the Owl Call My Name, by Margaret Craven, is a brilliant
book of indigeneity. Also the U.S. writers Louise Erdrich and Sherman
Alexie. In terms of Aboriginal writing there are lots, but in particular
I am a great admirer of Kim Scott's True
Country , the novelist Annie Cleven, and the poetry of Romaine
Moreton. Also the travel writer Paul Theroux, and the U.S. environmental
writer Barry Lopez. Theroux's Fong
and the Indians is brilliant as well as extremely funny,
I think.
You haven't mentioned any Black American writers?
I like a lot of Alice Walker's stuff. bell hooks influenced me
politically and there is a book called Black Like Coffee, but overall
the Black experience is not the Aboriginal experience - indigeneity
shifts everything for me. Redbirds
by the journalist Rick Bragg comes closer to my writing than most
of the Black U.S. writing I've encountered. (Bragg is part-Cherokee
but identifies as White).
What's next?
I am currently attempting to write a play about the place of Indigenous
tradition in modern black life, and about the way that affects our
kids. That's coming along, albeit very slowly. I think if I'd tried
to write it as a novel it'd be finished by now! Otherwise, I'm kind
of tending to work more in my immediate community, giving small
workshops and mentoring at schools and so on. I've got a farm to
run these days, and its hard to get away to festivals. Anyway there
are dozens of other Indigenous writers with something urgent to
say at those forums Time for me to step aside and just write for
a while.
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